Posts by drahcir yarrum

Please fill out the following claim form-
Number of African slaves in 1840 ____________
Imputed dollars in lost income due to slavery in 1840 $____________
Interest Rate to be applied %____________
Number of years to be computed ____________
Subtract the cost in dollars of all money distributed by
the federal and state governments to poor blacks from
1840 until 2001. - $____________
Divided by the number of African Americans who can trace
their ancestry back to slaves circa 1840 ____________

Fill this out, do the math and send your request for reparations to your congressman.

I would tend to rename this "a handout for someone who feels entitled to it" instead of reparations. By the way, tobacco has been and still is a legal substance. Slavery hasn't been legal for 136 years.

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Comments? Black Slavery

by Naeblis in

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found this article interesting.

what do you guys think?

it seems to be opposed topretty much everything i've read so far.. .

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Lisa:

There is no mass exodus of blacks back to Africa. And they are certainly free to go. Why do they stay? Because they know that they have freedom and opportunity here that they wouldn't have in Africa. They know that the American dream exists here for them as it does for anyone else. You appear to be living in the past. You seem to believe that there is still an institutional barrier for blacks to fully participate in this country. Whatever barriers exist, exist because of the cultural resistance on the part of some blacks. Basically, you feel guilt for past suffering of blacks. Fine. Sulk over it. Take it to your god. But don't try to fix it with everyone else's money.

My great, great grandfather had slaves before the civil war. He owned a sawmill in east Texas. After the Civil War, they could have left and some did. But most stayed on as hired hands. If they had been beaten and starved and mistreated as portrayed in the movies, I doubt they would have stayed on. Guess what. I have no money from that sawmill and I own no land from it's past existence. My family did not inherit one dime from it that I've ever seen. I'm 150 years removed from it. I'm NOT Guilty!

If you really want to get down to the truth of the matter, if it weren't for slavery in this country, many of those slaves would have died in Africa of starvation, disease and tribal wars. At least their offspring have gained the freedom and opportunity that would never have existed in Africa. Maybe they owe my family a debt of gratitude.

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Comments? Black Slavery

by Naeblis in

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found this article interesting.

what do you guys think?

it seems to be opposed topretty much everything i've read so far.. .

drahcir yarrum

LDH:

I DID NOT INSINUATE THAT ALL BLACKS ARE POOR. GO BACK AND RE-READ MY POST WHERE I CLEARLY MENTION BLACKS OF OTHER ECONOMIC LEVELS. I'M GETTING REAL FUCKING TIRED OF WEASALS LIKE YOU CONVENIENTLY SELECTING TEXT FROM POSTS AND TRYING TO USE THEM TO DEMEAN PEOPLE YOU DISAGREE WITH. YOU ARE A FRAUD. IF YOU NEVER RESPOND TO A POST OF MINE AGAIN IT WILL BE TO DAMN SOON.

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In the big scheme of things, Jesus'....

by SixofNine in

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...suffering was not so bad.

his "perfection" and understanding of the situation would certainly have mitigated his suffering.. his death was not really death, not in any meaningful sense.

it was a 15 second nap, using bible reasoning.

drahcir yarrum

I'm considering re-establishing the religion of the Greek mythology. You know, Zeus, Neptune, etc. As a religion it has every bit as much merit as any other religion. Who knows how much money one could raise if declaring himself a priest or spokesman for the Greek gods.

Any suggestions on a location for a temple?

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Comments? Black Slavery

by Naeblis in

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friends

found this article interesting.

what do you guys think?

it seems to be opposed topretty much everything i've read so far.. .

drahcir yarrum

We pay almost $3billion in foreign aid to Egypt too. We are making foreign aid payments in the amount of about $70 billion annually to numerous countries. What does that have to do with handing out free money to Americans just because their skin is black. Black Americans who have, by the way not lived one day as a slave. Blacks who even in bad inner city conditions, have a standard of living higher than the worlds poor.

I suppose the uneducated aren't aware that protestant religious leaders in the northeast United States began pressuring the government early in the 1800's and earlier to make slavery illegal in this country. Slavery was not universally accepted even in the south. Most farmers in the south could not afford slaves and most didn't own them. Slaves were the possession of the very wealthy plantation owners who weren't that numerous compared to the general population. As we look backwards it's easy to see that slavery was immoral. But my great great grandfather came to this country from Ireland as an indentured servant. People used to put notes on their employment bulletins that said "Irish Need Not Apply". So, get over your myopic view that blacks are the only people treated badly in the history of the world and in the history of this country specifically. Most of you watched the mini series "Roots" one too many times.

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Comments? Black Slavery

by Naeblis in

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friends

found this article interesting.

what do you guys think?

it seems to be opposed topretty much everything i've read so far.. .

drahcir yarrum

Heck yes, take more of my hard earned money that has been extracted from me in taxes and throw it down a hole called reparations.

When the checks are cut, will blacks sign a statement that says, "Now we are even. We will shut up about the slavery that a few of our forefathers suffered at the hands of people who lived almost 200 years ago?" Will blacks give up their victim status? Will white people with too much time on their hands get over their feelings of guilt for being white and well off? Will the increasing number of successful black business people, professionals and academics donate their reparation checks to charity or return them to the government?
Will the reparation checks lower the rate of illegitimate and teen pregnancies in the black community? Will the reparation checks demonstrably change the plight of inner city black communities?

Whites and blacks alike know that reparations are nothing more than a bullshit scam to reward people for the genetic skill of being born black. And next we can cut government checks for gays, Hispanics, American Indians and while we're at it, how about females? Haven't they all got legitimate bitches with America?

Are you people who want this fucking nuts?

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REBUTTAL to Why Americans are hated

by Amazing in

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[edited] i appreciate saintsatan's post.

this rebuttal is not intended as any negative response to saintsatan.

i think he did a good thing to post an important point of view, a view that needs consideration to balance out the actioins of political leaders everywhere.

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sleepy:

I think you might want to call the FBI and ask them if they turn the other way when IRA people in the U.S. are trying to send aid to the IRA. I think you will find that it's still against the law and they have made arrests on this in the past.

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REBUTTAL to Why Americans are hated

by Amazing in

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[edited] i appreciate saintsatan's post.

this rebuttal is not intended as any negative response to saintsatan.

i think he did a good thing to post an important point of view, a view that needs consideration to balance out the actioins of political leaders everywhere.

drahcir yarrum

Kent:

I do enjoy the things you post and this response reflects my attitude only for your last post and it is not personal. So I trust you will accept it as such.

You must understand that all of my responses to these posts have had to do with threads either trying to understand why terrorists have attacked the United States (U.S. mea culpa) or posts that try to explain why people outside of the United States hate us so.

Some responses to these threads from people in the U.S. have been of the self flagellating nature. Mea culpas for past policies. Other post responses have been from Euros and Canadians who have also hinted that the U.S. has culpability for the attacks of last Tuesday. Given the cowardly nature of the attacks and given the number of innocent lives lost, my response has essentially been, "BULLSHIT". We didn't ask for this and we haven't encouraged this. Nobody is claiming that U.S. foreign policy has been perfect because it hasn't. But whatever errors in policy the United States has made still do not add up to over 5,000 innocent lives snuffed out by pig fucking Islamic radicals. So if Euros and other malcontent Americans are going to jump in my shit about our so-called blame in this, I won't be sharing in any of the guilt. I have mentioned that I have two sons, one 13 and one 15. I'm not at all happy that the circumstances of the U.S. response could at some time in the future put them in the military and in harms way. But the way I and most Americans look at it, living in fear of terrorism is unacceptable. Our liberty was purchased by too many lives who have gone before us. We are not afraid. And if our allies in Europe don't wish to help, or want to try to affix blame on us, we are ready to go it alone. As an American I am not arrogant, but as an American I am proud and that pride was purchased with the blood of my countrymen.

I must add that it is a freaking laugh riot when Europeans accuse Americans of arrogance.

Respectfully,

Richard

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REBUTTAL to Why Americans are hated

by Amazing in

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[edited] i appreciate saintsatan's post.

this rebuttal is not intended as any negative response to saintsatan.

i think he did a good thing to post an important point of view, a view that needs consideration to balance out the actioins of political leaders everywhere.

drahcir yarrum

sleepy:

Oh, so if the U.S. government doesn't catch everyone here raising and sending money to terrorists in Northern Ireland, then our government is culpable? OK. If that's how you feel about it.